Re: [flalug] BSDanywhere - the OpenBSD Live CD

From: David T. Harris (blueninja83@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Oct 20 2008 - 09:39:19 EDT


--- On Mon, 10/20/08, Ron Youvan <ka4inm@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> I down loaded and put on CD-R's the AMD 64 and the
> i386 versions.
> The AMP 64 version wouldn't run because a line in
> /something/boot
> was too long. (I have a 1.8 Gig AMD 64 CPU.)
> The i386 version ran fine, but it lacked everything. No
> mc, free didn't work
> dir didn't work, df did work
> The X system menu had a terminal program and not much
> else other than a whole
> list of screen managers to chose from all beginning with
> XF---
> Ping worked and it set up DHCP OK, firefox worked fine
> but it wasn't on the menu.
> I may have missed a menu, but I sure looked, I found it
> useless for everyday use.
> Could the current BSD be like a worm in a horseradish,
> with all of that sweet
> food all around? (this was like living in a cave comparing
> it to Ver.3.5 of
> Slackware)

You can't realistically compare a 'live cd' to an actual install.
I've never tried the OpenBSD live cd because it lacked development
tools - which is one of OpenBSD's primary advantages! OpenBSD has
excellent man pages, is uber awesome at auditing their code,
and at providing a secure working environment.

As you know though, security v.s. usability/features is a tradeoff.
You can't have extensive functionaity & security at the same time.
Proper development requires rigorous testing and code auditing
to prevent bugs and security holes.

Also, you have to realize that BSDAnywhere does not use a compressed
file system like Knoppix & a lot of Linux livecd's do, hence
probably why it doesn't have a bunch of features.

Question - why do you need dir? You're running *nix - use ls!
Seriously, what functionality does dir give you that ls does not?
Why do use mc? Maybe I'm wierd, but I've never seen a need for mc
over using the basic commandline tools.

Old versions of Solaris don't use dir, either - hence you use ls.

Another thing to realize is that you are using BSD not GNU/Linux.
BSD & GNU/Linux are like cousins - they have an insane amount of
similarities but are not the same. Generally speaking you do
some things differently in BSD then you would in Linux and vice versa.

If you had been using BSD for years and decided to try Knoppix, you'd
probably have similar questions, like where's sysctl, why is everything
GNU, where's the man page for my network card, why does it take
so long to boot, where's pf, etc...

Each has their own strengths/weaknesses.

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