Re: [flalug] BSDanywhere - the OpenBSD Live CD

From: Ron Youvan (ka4inm@tampabay.rr.com)
Date: Mon Oct 20 2008 - 10:32:40 EDT


> You can't realistically compare a 'live cd' to an actual install.
> I've never tried the OpenBSD live cd because it lacked development
> tools - which is one of OpenBSD's primary advantages! OpenBSD has
> excellent man pages, is uber awesome at auditing their code,
> and at providing a secure working environment.

  I have used a bunch of live CDs so I must compare this to them,
it was bare IMHO.

> As you know though, security v.s. usability/features is a tradeoff.
> You can't have extensive functionaity & security at the same time.
> Proper development requires rigorous testing and code auditing
> to prevent bugs and security holes.

> Also, you have to realize that BSDAnywhere does not use a compressed
> file system like Knoppix & a lot of Linux livecd's do, hence
> probably why it doesn't have a bunch of features.

   My complaint is mostly that the GUI menu had almost no programs.
I ran firefox and Thunderbird from a terminal, the only "GUI program"
on any menu that I could find was "terminal."

> Question - why do you need dir? You're running *nix - use ls!
> Seriously, what functionality does dir give you that ls does not?
> Why do use mc? Maybe I'm weird, but I've never seen a need for mc
> over using the basic command line tools.

   In Slackware dir defaults to an different column-ation than ls
and is normally included to make M$ users feel not so lost.
mc is super at mass tagging, renaming and other GUI like operations.
I don't like not using the tools provided, perhaps you don't understand
all of it's abilities. My day would be 20 times longer without it.

> Old versions of Solaris don't use dir, either - hence you use ls.

   dir is a DOS command and is included in LINUX just for newbies.

> Another thing to realize is that you are using BSD not GNU/Linux.
> BSD & GNU/Linux are like cousins - they have an insane amount of
> similarities but are not the same. Generally speaking you do
> some things differently in BSD then you would in Linux and vice versa.

> If you had been using BSD for years and decided to try Knoppix, you'd
> probably have similar questions, like where's sysctl, why is everything
> GNU, where's the man page for my network card, why does it take
> so long to boot, where's pf, etc...

   I use Slackware and I start in LINUX and I only start the X system for
the mail or to work with pictures etc.

> Each has their own strengths/weaknesses.

   One thing that I failed to mention is this live BSD was the slowest
at doing everything that I ever tried.
   I am a user, have never taken any kind of IT class.

-- 
    Ron  KA4INM - Yesterday I was a dog.  Today I'm a dog.
                  Tomorrow I'll probably still be a dog. Sigh!
                  There's so little hope for advancement. -- Snoopy



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