On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, Khepri wrote:
> Chad Perrin wrote:
>
> > While Python is reportedly good for database management, I suspect that
> > PHP and Perl are both somewhat better suited to the task. I say this
> > with full knowledge that I might touch off a flame war, though: I'm sure
> > there are others who will vehemently disagree with me on this (though
> > whether or not they're on this list is yet to be determined).
>
> That makes sense to me considering the maturity of
> Perl and the heavy integration of PHP with all the
> LAMPs and WAMPs out there on websites...
>
> It seems like PHP is settling into the Net role as
> you described earlier and Perl may be better for
> desktop apps...Python would have to nudge Perl
> over a bit in that area...kinda like Linux trying
> to nudge MS off the desktop I imagine...:)
>
> Hmm, no wonder Python is courting newbies.
>
> > Part of what I like about Perl is the fact that it will
> > basically let you do ANYTHING AT ALL, up to and including patching your
> > OS kernel with a few short lines of code.
>
> Ah that's right...the chainsaw....:) Considering
> where I'd like to go with my Linux adventure it
> sounds as if having Perl in my pocket of tools
> would be a wise thing to have now that you mention
> that again...:)
>
> I guess what I'm doing with all these questions is
> trying to map out a course that will get me from A
> to B in a series of steps...all written in sand
> and not stone of course...:)
>
> >> ...I can come close...I have a two-button serial mouse from Tandy
> >> laying around here somewhere...LOL
>
> Now that I think about it I think there's still a
> Genius mouse here somewhere too...LOL
>
> I'm a pack rat I guess...I don't throw it out ever...
>
> > It might be worth your while to choose your window manager with that in
> > mind, then.
>
> Well, if I was going to use those...:) Ihave a
> couple of Logitech three-button and a couple of MS
> two buttons laying around also....ijust don't know
> how Linux-friendly Logitech mice are from lack of
> experience..
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/README.mouse says:
,--
| Protocol Types
| serial PnP BusMouse PS/2 Extended PS/2
| OS platforms protocols serial protocol protocol protocols
| "Auto" "BusMouse" "PS/2" "xxxPS/2" USB
|
| -------------------------------------------------------------------------
...
| Linux Ok Ok Ok Ok Ok ?
...
| 4. Configuring Your Mouse
...
| PS/2 mouse
| The "PS/2" protocol should always be tried first for the PS/2
| mouse regardless of the brand of the mouse.
...
| When you choose, keep in mind the following rule of thumb:
|
| 1. "Logitech" protocol is for old serial mouse models from
| Logitech. Modern Logitech mice use either "MouseMan" or
| "Microsoft" protocol.
|
| 2. Most 2-button serial mice support the "Microsoft" protocol.
'--
For text mode (gpm):
,--
| gpm-Linux 1.19.3, $Date: 2000/01/17 22:23:03 $
| Available mouse types are:
|
| r name synonym description
|
| mman The "MouseMan" and similar devices (3/4 bytes per packet).
| Synonyms: Mouseman
| ms The original ms protocol, with a middle-button extension.
| Synonyms:
| ms+ Like 'ms', but allows dragging with the middle button.
| Synonyms:
| ms+lr 'ms+', but you can reset m by pressing lr (see man page).
| Synonyms:
| bare Unadorned ms protocol. Needed with some 2-buttons mice.
| Synonyms: Microsoft
| * msc Mouse-Systems-Compatible (5bytes). Most 3-button mice.
| Synonyms: MouseSystems
| sun 'msc' protocol, but only 3 bytes per packet.
| Synonyms:
| mm MM series. Probably an old protocol...
| Synonyms: MMSeries
| logi Used in some Logitech devices (only serial).
| Synonyms: Logitech
| bm Micro$oft busmice and compatible devices.
| Synonyms: BusMouse
| ps2 Busmice of the ps/2 series. Most busmice, actually.
| Synonyms: PS/2
...
| logim Turn logitech into Mouse-Systems-Compatible.
| Synonyms:
| pnp Plug and play. New mice may not run with '-t ms'.
| Synonyms:
| imps2 Microsoft Intellimouse (ps2) - 3 buttons, wheel unused
| Synonyms:
| ms3 Microsoft Intellimouse (serial) - 3 buttons, wheel unused
| Synonyms:
| netmouse Genius NetMouse (ps2) - 2 buttons and 2 buttons 'up'/'down'.
| Synonyms:
'--
So it'll probably work...
> I'm thinking if I can learn to do just about
> anything and everything from cammndline..the GUI
> is an after thought almost..
I can _do_ pretty much everything from CLI (for some things I prefer it),
but text-based web browsers that can easily access web sites are few and far
between. links is better than lynx in this regard. Haven't tried w3m. X
is nice because of its ability to run multiple things easily and access
them in quick succession. Yeah yeah, you can do that with "screen" but it
doesn't seem as easy. Image viewers suck in text mode too, unless you find
one that uses VESA graphics modes; then it doesn't suck too badly.
-- -eben ebQenW1@EtaRmpTabYayU.rIr.OcoPm home.tampabay.rr.com/hactarHanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity." Derived from Robert Heinlein
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