Re: {SPAM?} Re: [flalug] {SPAM?} 1st post

From: Khepri (khepri@perennialwisdom.com)
Date: Sat Feb 19 2005 - 12:45:12 EST


Chad Perrin wrote:

> While Python is reportedly good for database management, I suspect that
> PHP and Perl are both somewhat better suited to the task. I say this
> with full knowledge that I might touch off a flame war, though: I'm sure
> there are others who will vehemently disagree with me on this (though
> whether or not they're on this list is yet to be determined).

That makes sense to me considering the maturity of
Perl and the heavy integration of PHP with all the
LAMPs and WAMPs out there on websites...

It seems like PHP is settling into the Net role as
you described earlier and Perl may be better for
desktop apps...Python would have to nudge Perl
over a bit in that area...kinda like Linux trying
to nudge MS off the desktop I imagine...:)

Hmm, no wonder Python is courting newbies.

> Part of what I like about Perl is the fact that it will
> basically let you do ANYTHING AT ALL, up to and including patching your
> OS kernel with a few short lines of code.

Ah that's right...the chainsaw....:) Considering
where I'd like to go with my Linux adventure it
sounds as if having Perl in my pocket of tools
would be a wise thing to have now that you mention
that again...:)

I guess what I'm doing with all these questions is
trying to map out a course that will get me from A
to B in a series of steps...all written in sand
and not stone of course...:)

>> ...I can come close...I have a two-button serial mouse from Tandy
>> laying around here somewhere...LOL

Now that I think about it I think there's still a
Genius mouse here somewhere too...LOL

I'm a pack rat I guess...I don't throw it out ever...

> It might be worth your while to choose your window manager with that in
> mind, then.

Well, if I was going to use those...:) Ihave a
couple of Logitech three-button and a couple of MS
two buttons laying around also....ijust don't know
how Linux-friendly Logitech mice are from lack of
experience..

> The only time I find myself
> using the mouse for more than merely moving the cursor around while
> typing is when I'm using an application that needs the whole clicky
> thing for efficient use (like a web browser on a webpage with lots of
> links).

I can probably run K or Gnome on my main
machine...heck, Mandrake would be on here now if I
had succeeded in configuring net access...

I had it set-up dual boot, that's mostly the reson
I stuck with it for two months...even now trying
the Move Live CD I can't get the two NICs
configured correctly...whereas Knoppix configured
the Net card fine and onlyneeded to be told the IP
of the second card...

I read somewhere that the Mandrake was originally
based on Red Hat, so now I I go for a full install
with partitioning and all again, I'll probably go
with debian....

But back to the topic...this machine is aging and
I would do well to go with a lighter
desktop...I've been looking at ICEwm and Xfce for
a GUI..i'll have to google those you mention
though as I haven't run intothemin my searches yet..:)

> Aside from stuff like fvwm and WindowMaker, you might want to have a
> look at PekWM.

ut..another one...lol....

> Besides, it occurred
> to me that after configuring PekWM to suit my tastes it would basically
> be WindowMaker.

Given the engine under the hood...on the slim
models at least (not Gnome or K), that might just
be the case with them all?

I'm thinking if I can learn to do just about
anything and everything from cammndline..the GUI
is an after thought almost..

chris



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