Ron Youvan wrote:
> Just my opinion here, MS DOS's batch language is a
> subset of UNIX scripting language, which is basically the
> same as Basic, but with two differences. (that I am aware
> of)
>
> First: there is only integer math.
>
> Secondly: the syntax and reserved command names are
> completely different, I think the MS way makes more sense
> to me, but I started with DOS. (some BASH commands are
> down right bizarre to me)
>
> Perl, python and other "scripting languages" are not related to BASH's
> scripting language.
I just found out that each shell comes with it's
own I guess...
I've been working with PHP a bit, hacking other
peoples scripts mostly, to make them do what I
want, but my neighbor says it's be more worthwhile
to learn perl...
Now that I see that perl is very seasoned in Linux
I think he may be right, although I'm notsure it
would be as good at interfacing mysql as php...
Python appears to be very newbie friendly...but I
think I'll put that on the back burner for the
time being...
I've got enough to chew on at the moment...LOL
> To me (and a few other odd balls) LINUX is "commandline"
> and all GUI is not.
I must be an oddball then!...:)
> In fact the "desktop" is normally from
> the "X windowing system" written by the MIT group as a
> color "master computer with dumb terminals" system and it
> can be compiled to run over MSDOS, windows, the MAC OS and
> others, it is a poor replacement for MS windows.
That's funny, I noticed that Midnight Commander
they included in Univesity Linux acts just like
Xtree did in DOS....norton had something similar
but I don't think I ever used that...
> I use LINUX 90% of the time and when using (98 SE at work,
> which I hate) I use the keyboard 80% of the time, the mouse
> is a quick way to move the cursor around the screen to me.
I do love the mouse...Cut and paste are worth it
alone....although it seems those are just Gates
version of a couple of original UNIX commands....
> That doesn't work with the "X windowing system" in fact if
> you don't have a three button mouse with some "X windowing
> system" applications some things become quite difficult.
I didn't know that...
So the people writing programs for X-windows are
leaving the keyboard shortcuts out?
> > Basically I'm shooting for a 'roll your own' or 'Linux
> > from scratch'
>
> > level of skill....
>
> If winblos breaks what do you do? Reinstall it, over
> and over and over every time
> something gets screwed up, reinstall it.
Yeah, and that's on top on the rebooting 4 or 5
times a days....on top of End Tasking 15 or 20
times a day..(although I admit alot of that is my
fault for abusing the system...LOL)
> Example:
>
> FileName=${1%.*}.xmp
>
> This creates a variable (FileName) from the first command line
> parameter with the extension changed from any to .xmp it's one of those
> "keep the book on your knee until you have enough examples in
> /usr/local/bin to use as references.
LOL....I see. Although once you told me what it
was and I look at it again it seems to make
sense..?!?!
Could you run that on an entire directory? I
imagine you could....
I'll find out soon enough I suppose...:)
It seems like that would be handy for changing
extentions of web pages...say from .htm or .html,
all to .php or .pl or .xmp (whatever that is is..LOL)?
I have the O'reilly's bash book, but I'll have to
check the version...better than nothig I say...:)
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