Re: [flalug] Novells CTO Blog

From: Khepri (khepri@perennialwisdom.com)
Date: Sat Apr 08 2006 - 19:32:59 EDT


Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 01:59:28AM -0400, khepri wrote:
>
>>Chad Perrin wrote:

>>I guess it because at this point I tend to see Unix and Linux and two
>>different and separate things...so it kinda threw me when he equates
>>Unix and Linux
<snip>
> In the case of the new CTO, it looks to me like his use of UNIX in the
> above-quoted passage would translate to "unix" in Chad-speak.

Okay, that makes more sense to me now that you put it that way....:)

(not a bad idea about the word usage...didn't you do the same with PERL,
Perl, and perl a while back?)

>>Ah, I see...profitiblity through supporting an open source solution
>>rather than creating and marketing the open source solution....a fine
>>line isn't it?....Creating a distro from scratch and maketing it and
>>supporting it, even coding for it...doesn't seem all that different
>>other than the "open sourceness" of it in relation to what Netscape was
>>trying to achieve...
>
>
> Well . . . no corporation really creates an open source solution. They
> do one of three things:
>
> 1. They pick up an open source package and sell it as a solution.
>
> 2. They create a closed source solution, then eventually open-source
> it.
>
> 3. They sponsor the creation of an open source project by the
> community. The resulting package may then be subject to number 1.

I think number three was what I had in mind...Couldn't find the right
words though...:)

<snip>

>>>He's
>>>got something like Linux Newbie Syndrome, perhaps -- all the enthusiasm
>>>and good intentions without the mature understanding of what he's really
>>>sunk his teeth into, yet. It'll come, as long as we give him the time
>>>and help the Linux Newbie when he needs it, how he can best be helped,
>>>by showing him how to help himself.
>>
>>The Way of Linux...sounds like a book.
>
>
> Ssshhh, don't tell anyone. I'm planning to write that book. It'll go
> on your shelf next to The Cathedral and the Bazaar.

I'll have to keep an eye out for it....and get that one in the
meantime....:)

Looks like a great backgrounder for this subject!

> The Microsoft Open Source Lab should definitely hire my ass if they want
> to really understand what's going on with open source software. They
> could do far worse for getting in-depth and timely analyses of why and
> how open source software development and user communities work -- and,
> in fact, they often have done far worse. The fools.

I guess it wouldn't truly be Microsoft if they didn't...

First they got to ditch the screaming banshee-clown..Seems they had
nothing but trouble since he started steering the boat...

WHat I remember of Microsoft when tey seemed "cool" was during the
period of transition from DOS 5 to DOS 6....Win3.1 was rolling along
with M$ providing free tools for development...and just around the
corner Win95 truly hammering OS/2....been all downhill from there...for
me that is.

> Maybe I should give 'em a resume. I'd be happy to take home six figures
> for the privilege of telling Microsoft where it's going wrong, right up
> to the point where they fire me for refusing to toe the party line and
> sugarcoat the truth.

Eh, that'd just brainwash yah before then...LOL

Chris in DC



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